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Rebuilding a better Nautilus

  

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Rebuilding a better Nautilus
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Submitted:  Feb 28 2010
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Some of you may have already seen DanRabbit's excellent Elementary Nautilus mockup. If you haven't I strongly recommend you check it out; the default Nautilus interface is terrible and Dan has proposed an excellent redesign of it.
http://danrabbit.deviantart.com/art/elementary-Nautilus-154893044

What you'll find HERE is MY mockup of a better, redesigned Nautilus. You'll note that it's not all that different to Dan's, and it's true. I can't improve much on his fantastic design. Where I differ, though, is that I'm proposing Zeitgeist and the GNOME Activity Journal to be integrated inside Nautilus. Oh yes.

I've not demonstrated this integration here, but if you check out my blog post on my website, I provide a detailed critique of the current user interface of Nautilus, my solution (what you see here) and my mockups demonstrating Zeitgeist and GNOME ACtivity Journal integration inside Nautilus.

Please have a read, it's quite a long post but interesting and full of lulz, I assure you. I would LOVE to hear your opinions, criticisms and ideas. Let's get this around the net so that lots of people see it and, hopefully, someone in the right place with the right skills will make these mockups a reality.

/izo\




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 Great

 
 by minatolf on: Feb 28 2010
 
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I agree, you should look at DanRabbit user in deviantart, he made a mockup of how nautilus should be that's as good as yours. One thing I really want nautilus to have is the ability to differentiate between places, devices, etc (The Zeitgeist integration you propose is really interesting!).


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 Re: Great

 
 by Izo on: Feb 28 2010
 
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Thank you! Yes, he did an excellent redesign of Nautilus, I just hope it can be made real, along with my proposed Zeitgeist integration. Seif Lofty, one of the key developers of Docky and Zeitgeist, has already provided positive feedback on this idea.

/izo\


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 Very Good ;)

 
 by leonardomdq on: Feb 28 2010
 
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the design is beautiful, I never tire of looking at it:)


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 Re: Very Good ;)

 
 by Izo on: Feb 28 2010
 
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Thanks!

/izo\


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 great work

 
 by eluminx on: Feb 28 2010
 
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You guys just keep getting better at this. I've been following your mockups and DanRabbits for quite some time now and i must say this really is progress. This mockup is just plain awesome, let's hope that some of the nautilus devs take some of these project serious and start to implement alot of you guys' work. I have a simple questions tho, if the devs don't implement any of these ideas, is there a possibility of a nautilus fork? elementary nautilus is so much simpler and is just so much more usueable, so will you guys decide to go your own route? Just curious since it seems that the latest update to nautilus just looks horrible. Anyways this is a great mockup let's hope either this one or DanRabbits becomes a reality soon...


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 Re: great work

 
 by Izo on: Feb 28 2010
 
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Hi and thanks for the nice words! If the GNOME devs, for whatever reason, decide not to implement mine or Dan's ideas, then we can certainly use them Dan's Nautilus-Elementary, where heavy work, patching and modifications are occurring anyway. This is the beauty of Open Source.

/izo\


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 Re: Re: great work

 
 by eluminx on: Feb 28 2010
 
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Great news, hopefully soon enough people can start to contribute more than just resources to you and dan's project. I know for a fact i will soon start to donate to such projects. Is great to see you guys be motivated and implement such great work at lighting speed. Not much else to say but, keep up the great work, and good luck with future mockups, so far all the ones you guys have made have been extremely awesome...


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 Nautilus to Finder?

 
 by schollidesign on: Mar 1 2010
 
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With that mock-up I am not agree. Please stay closer with Gnome, so Nautilus is the most important application from Gnome - touch :)

Cheers


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 Re: Nautilus to Finder?

 
 by TheRob on: Mar 1 2010
 
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youre saying nautilus is good the way it is?!?!?!

hmph... wtf is ppl on these days?


\\\\\\\"life sucks, get a f***ing helmet alright!\\\\\\\" -Denis Leary
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 Re: Re: Nautilus to Finder?

 
 by schollidesign on: Mar 1 2010
 
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Of course. The lastest is really sweet. But I am sure that a moded Nautilus will appear soon and everybody will be happy. But the truth (main-default) Nautilus will never looks like that Mock-Up. It's more Finder than Nautilus. ;)

Cheers


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 Re: Re: Re: Nautilus to Finder?

 
 by Izo on: Mar 1 2010
 
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Hi, see above regarding my thoughts on Finder and Nautilus.

/izo\


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 Re: Re: Re: Nautilus to Finder?

 
 by TheRob on: Mar 3 2010
 
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latest is really sweet!?!?! you obviously
run a 4000x2000 screen were you can
enjoy all the extra padding and chrome
nautilus uses.... ffs... plus, that mockup
looks a lot more like explorer than it
looks like finder, asshole.


\\\\\\\"life sucks, get a f***ing helmet alright!\\\\\\\" -Denis Leary
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Nautilus to Finder?

 
 by schollidesign on: Mar 3 2010
 
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But Rob please get down. I don't know why u use fecal-words if someone only have a different opinions and in this case is disagree. I saw you made your Dolphin similar to this mock-up above ... your heart is on it... maybe I understand u're sensibility. But at least it's all in the hand of the Gnome-developer and the Nautlius-modder. Gnome will follow their "guideline". See it realistic.

Cheers


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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nautilus to Finder?

 
 by TheRob on: Mar 3 2010
 
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hehe, nono, I'm not sensible, I just dont
understand how a f**cked up gui for a
file manager without crucial functionality
that a file manager needs to have can
be called "fine" or whatever :D

sorry if I offended your feelings or whatever
I was just thinking you where "yankin my crank" so to speak :D when you said its good.

Dolphin is atm the only file manager that
has all the functionality I need on a
daily basis, nautilus does not, plus its
huge and takes up like *a*lot* of screen
real estate, in my book, that is always
a bad thing, not a matter of taste or
whatever.

Yeah I use bespin on my qt/kde apps,
because it looks good and it gives
extra functionality, like fore example,
I can grab an empty space on the toolbar
and move a window around.... that gives
me the opportunity to have a very
small titlebar without losing
functionality.... okeyokey..... sorry
bout the long and boring rant mode post :D

anyways, yeah, I know nautilus will never
be good,because of the
"users are idiots" mentality
gnome suffers from.... and that sucks.

PS. lest hope nautilus-elementary will.


\\\\\\\"life sucks, get a f***ing helmet alright!\\\\\\\" -Denis Leary
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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Nautilus to Finder?

 
 by schollidesign on: Mar 3 2010
 
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ok ok ... in my opinion "the users are idiots" mentally is stupid for me, too. But it's part of the plan of Gnome, psss and we have to acept that. Less functionality makes me more worry than less possibilities to adjust the work-area. Finally: Gnome (Nautilus) is doing their own stuff and always with a different look and mechanism than Mac and Windows is doing. Gnome 3 is a good example for that. In my eyes I am agree with that. Every desktop-manager with it's own personality in look-like and usability.
For that reason I saw the mock-up and knew that this never will happen with the Vanilla-Nautilus. It's too near to Finder and Explorer - touch. But elementarydesktop is doing a good job and a escape of the usual Gnome. It haves many elements from the mac-side - that's fact.



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 Re: Nautilus to Finder?

 
 by Izo on: Mar 1 2010
 
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Hi,

People are concentrating far too much on the fact that I've borrowed ONLY A COUPLE of UI elements from Finder to boost the UI design of Nautilus. I don't want Nautilus to be Finder. I want it to be BETTER. Finder doesn't have a pathbar, for example. My Nautilus does. AND it has Zeitgeist integration, a complete chronology based search engine inside Nautilus. Finder doesn't have this.

If you were to check out my website post would see that I've gone into quite a lot of detail about this.

/izo\


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 Re: Re: Nautilus to Finder?

 
 by TheRob on: Mar 3 2010
 
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I agree, there is nothing here that screams
finder, not the layout, not the looks,
nothing.

I does take some of the elements that
finder has tho, which is a good thing,
some from explorer (pathbar), and
some from nautilus... (yeah, its not all
bad)

it would make an all-in-one fm if you ask me.

you guys got my vote


\\\\\\\"life sucks, get a f***ing helmet alright!\\\\\\\" -Denis Leary
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 wow!

 
 by TheRob on: Mar 1 2010
 
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12/10!

its never gonna happen tho... too much
useful information that disturbs the
user or whatever yaadayaadayadada...

...user are idiots and dont know what to
do with all the great functions right?


\\\\\\\"life sucks, get a f***ing helmet alright!\\\\\\\" -Denis Leary
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 Re: wow!

 
 by Izo on: Mar 1 2010
 
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Heh, well it may just happen with Nautilus-Elementary my friend, watch this space.

/izo\


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 Re: Re: wow!

 
 by TheRob on: Mar 3 2010
 
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yeah I have actually sucked the code from
bzr a couple of days back and having
fun with "clutterview" and whatnot, seems
this could actually be a filemanager after
all :D, tho A LOT of functions are still
missing in that case :)


\\\\\\\"life sucks, get a f***ing helmet alright!\\\\\\\" -Denis Leary
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 Re: Re: wow!

 
 by TheRob on: Mar 3 2010
 
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forgot to say... most of those functions
seems to be in your mockup, seems that
your mockup has all the good functions
from finder & explorer plus some more.

if this actually becomes a reality I
might have to try gnome again :D


\\\\\\\"life sucks, get a f***ing helmet alright!\\\\\\\" -Denis Leary
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 Brilliant

 
 by gitiret on: Mar 19 2010
 
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It's very cool


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